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Where on Earth is the oil filter?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Thomas Birch, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. Thomas Birch

    Thomas Birch Copenworld Newbie

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    Cannot for life of me find where that pesky oil filter is located

    Anyone got any pictures, diagrams, anything would help!
     
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  2. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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  3. Vin Petrol

    Vin Petrol Copenworld Regular

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    If you already have an oilfilter and it isn't the Herth & Buss or a Daihatsu one, measure it before you remove the old one - if it's larger than 50mm high, it won't fit through the gap in the engine mount and you'd have to take large portions of the car apart.
     
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  4. Tommmbirch

    Tommmbirch Copenworld Newbie

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  5. Salieri

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  6. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    sorry lost the last 2 numbers...:eek:
     

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  7. Tommmbirch

    Tommmbirch Copenworld Newbie

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    Thanks for all your help!

    You wouldn't have any advice on removing the alternator and AC belts, one is squeaking in the cold weather.

    Thanks a million :)
     
  8. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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  9. Tommmbirch

    Tommmbirch Copenworld Newbie

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    Is it vital to raise the car to replace the oil filter or is it possible to fit it without jacking it up?
     
  10. Vin Petrol

    Vin Petrol Copenworld Regular

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    Almost certainly impossible unless you're really tiny - and I'm 5'6". You have to do it from the bottom and it's a fairly low car. I suppose it's width rather than height though, if you're very skinny you might squeeze under and get your arm up there.
     
  11. Tommmbirch

    Tommmbirch Copenworld Newbie

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    The wrench tool, considering the oil filter is 68 mm wide, would it be best to get a 68mm 14 flute
     
  12. Vin Petrol

    Vin Petrol Copenworld Regular

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    If you've got a 68mm filter yes, a 68mm wrench is the right one. They're a few quid on Ebay/Amazon.
     
  13. Nedryerson

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    Copenistas,

    I'm Back ! Yes the Copen which has been SORNed for the last 2 years just passed its MOT.
    I'm a bit wary or taking it out on the road immediately as the oil has been sitting in there for well over a year. So, Ive ordered 2 new filters from 123 spares better to be safe than sorry eh Mr Turbo?
    Anyway, Thomas I hope you have sorted your filter problem but if not this is how it's done

    1. Put the car up on ramps or axle stands
    2. Lie under the car and feel around at the BACK of the engine (through a space) until you find the filter
    3. Place the filter wrench on the filter
    4. Fit your 3/8 ratchet into the square in the filter wrench and turn anticlockwise until it goes slack. After that you should be able to spin it off.
    5. Extract the old filter, wrench and ratchet one at a time.
    6. Work the new filter up through the hole (the 65mm filter will not fit) and after 15 minutes or so (or less if you have ever removed someones appendix in the dark) you should be able to get the thread started.
    7. Fit the wrench and ratchet and tighten.

    By the way, whats the best oil for the Copen ?

    Ned
     
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  14. Vin Petrol

    Vin Petrol Copenworld Regular

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    My method is a little different due to laziness.

    1. Drive the car to National Tyres and Autocare.
    2. Hand them my Herth + Buss filter and my 68mm filter wrench (their filter doesn't fit through the gap and my branch doesn't have the right wrench)
    3. Get coffee
    4. Hand them £40ish and drive home. (usually a discount coupon on their website here, if you book and pay online enter the code DV476 from the top right of the coupon. Car Tyres Online | Brakes | Exhausts | Batteries | Tracking & more )

    It's not much more than the cost of the oil, plus no taking oil to the tip or getting covered in it doing it.

    Oils will undoubtedly start a discussion, but National use Fuchs Titan, either SSYN or XTR for our car (I choose SSYN) which is a good quality oil, used to be called Silkolene which may be more familiar.
     
  15. welz

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    Motoröl Total 5W-40 4X5L 4 X 5L= 20 Liter Total 5W-40 Quartz 9000 Energy
    64,00 € 19% 64,00 €
    Oils will undoubtedly start a discussion:D
    bought yesterday for my copen with dx loader..best ever...

    use it for all my cars and motorcycles..:wasntme:

    https://www.ebay.de/i/362186896772?chn=ps

    like this link. but got 5 litres for 16 euros.:)
     
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  16. Nedryerson

    Nedryerson Copenworld Regular

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    I tried using my local garage to fit a new oil filter. After a few hours and they hadn't rang to say the car was ready I called them. They were struggling and I could hear a mechanic swearing at the Copen in the background !!!

    I've done it myself since then !
     
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  17. shane

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    Did an oil and oil filter change today on my 600.

    It doesn't get any easier does it? Grrr!
     
  18. JULIAN HULL

    JULIAN HULL Copenworld Newbie

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    Ned : Is that the height or the width of the filter ??
    All the oil filters for this car at Euro Car Parts (on-line) have the following specification:

    Diameter(mm)65.5
    Diameter2(mm)62.5
    Diameter3(mm)54.5
    Height [mm]65
    Inner Diameter 1 [mm]54
    Inner Diameter 2 [mm]62
    Inner Thread [mm]3/4 - 16UNF
    Outer Diameter [mm]66, 68
    Thread Size3/4-16 UNF

    I have no idea what all the different diameters mean.

    However, If I understand you correctly then none of the oil filters from ECP will fit !
     
  19. Salieri

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    Just buy the Herth+Buss Jakoparts J1316008 filter that was posted earlier, which is only 50mm in height, its the best value for money and it fits.

    FRAM, Crosland, MANN etc. = too big
     
  20. JULIAN HULL

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    many thanks Salieri - i will take your advice
     
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