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Wheel nut length

Discussion in 'Problems, Fixes, Tips...' started by Runners, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Runners

    Runners Copenworld Member

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    I've read the threads about wheel nuts, Mx5 ones M12x1.5, and have trawling through eBay to look for some new chrome ones, as mine are really rusty and look awful. They seem to vary from 31mm - 35mm in total length, but the ones I have on the copen are only 20mm in total length. The OCD side of me wants to know what length others have brought and how far they stick out? My locking wheel nuts stick out a fair way and it bugs the hell out of me, so I'm trying to avoid any replacement nuts sticking out to the point that it looks wrong.

    Cheers :)
     
  2. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    When I got my car it had some after-market/none Daihatsu locking nuts on. They stuck out :mad: I was bothered and conscious of catching them the curb and maybe bending the stud or just the thread. Don't get me wrong they didn't stick out more than DaG in a crowd of friendly folk, but say a centimetre which was enough.

    So I went on Ebay and bought some used genuine Daihatsu locking wheel nuts and they fitted flush.

    I measure my nuts at 21 x 21 mm. I'm not sure how long the locking nut is as never measured it but guessing it must be close to 21 mm.
     
  3. Old Badger

    Old Badger Copenworld Regular

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    The image of Trustafox measuring his nuts made me smile! No comment on the fact that they're only 21mm! :D:D
     
  4. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Just think how much it made me smile doing it! :D

    All good things come in small packages :D
     
  5. Glyn

    Glyn Copenworld Newbie

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    Following the valuable information and advice on Copenworld, I bought a set of genuine MX5 chrome wheel nuts, and very pleased with them I am. They are 25.25mm total length. My original Copen wheel nuts are 22.5mm total length. Although less than 3mm longer, I can tell that the domed bit of the Mazda nuts protrude a bit more than the Copen ones but they look fine. And something I've not noticed before is that the Copen wheel curves in slightly towards the centre. As a result, even though the Mazda nuts stick out a bit, if I put a straight edge across the wheel, they do not protrude beyond it. In fact they are perfectly in line with it. Personally, I wouldn't fit longer nuts and when I was looking to buy mine, it would have been easy to buy longer ones by mistake.
    Regarding locking wheel nuts. I would not fit ones that do not match the other nuts exactly. If they are different, either in weight or length, it could be impossible to get the hub in balance irrespective of the wheel and tyre being balanced.
     
  6. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Copenworld Newbie

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    MX5 Wheel nuts

    I totally agree with the last post, I have fitted MX5 nuts on mine and to be really honest they look much better. My intention was to do this as a temporary measure and have my original "Nuts" chromed @ £3 each but I do like the Mazda one much better, and they really shine.
    Old Badger's previous posts have spurred me on to do this, I have also ordered quite a few chrome bits from Japan, to improve the look of my Copen :)
     
  7. Runners

    Runners Copenworld Member

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    Thanks for all the replies. Some have really made me chuckle!

    A friend of mine has a mazda 2, which takes M12x1.5. After the suggestions about the mx5, they seem to be the same nuts, so we swapped one over from the mazda to the copen. I was surprised at how much better they look. The chrome domed top really sets the wheels off, and doesn't stick out as far as I thought they would. So I'm now hunting down some genuine mazda nuts!
     
  8. DaG

    DaG Copenworld Guru

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    Very small, yes.:D
     
  9. Old Badger

    Old Badger Copenworld Regular

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    Fitted the Mazda ones - they look great! Really enjoy polishing my (small) nuts now :D:eek:
     
  10. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Copenworld Newbie

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    Wheel Nuts/Knobs

    Hi Old Badger,
    can I ask where did you get your very small knob from !!!!! no, no, the chrome knob that fits your handbrake please........
     
  11. ClareL

    ClareL Copenworld Veteran

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  12. copencat

    copencat Copenworld Regular

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    ooohhh and what did you order - i know old badger got some chrome door inserts/handles
     
  13. Old Badger

    Old Badger Copenworld Regular

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    Hi Snowdrop I got them on Ebay from Sakura Motors. If you search Parts and accessories for Daihatsu Copen it's on the first page.

    And remember small is beautiful! :D

    OB :rolleyes:
     
  14. ClareL

    ClareL Copenworld Veteran

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    I got dark wood inserts and chrome door handles, they are beautiful :p I also got my ultimate edition grill from them at the same time as it wasn't available from here last year, it is much cheaper and easier now than ordering from Japan.
     
  15. copencat

    copencat Copenworld Regular

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    hopefully soon a new grey copen!
    yeah the shopping list ever grows!

    i thought the problem with japan is that it takes forever to get here and twice as much once you go through customs! did you not have this problem?
     
  16. copencat

    copencat Copenworld Regular

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    lol now i actually looked i see they are german even though item location is japan! now it makes sense
     
  17. ClareL

    ClareL Copenworld Veteran

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    I'd did with the grill as it is a bigger item but the door handles and knob arrived in about 10 days and had no extra tax. I think that customs only stop the bigger value items. :-((
     
  18. ClareL

    ClareL Copenworld Veteran

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    That is odd, mine definitely came from Japan as my anime (Japanese cartoon) obsessed teenager kept all the packaging because it was written in Japanese and had Japanese postage on it - he loves anything Japanese.
     
  19. Old Badger

    Old Badger Copenworld Regular

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    Yeah mine came from Japan too in an old biscuit box! No customs duty for the door handles/handbrake knob. BUT I have also ordered bigger parts from Jesse Streeter in Japan - had to pay customs duty :mad: They should arrive tomorrow:D
     
  20. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Copenworld Newbie

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    Many thanks for that OB, I have also ordered a load of bits from Japan, but I did it through Buyee, all I can say is what fantastic service I have had, and found out today they have been shipped, so we can see how long they take, also it was a good time to bid for them as the Yen was quite low, so that will save a bit, but I will keep you posted on that.
    Today my red Woly arrived, after reading your thread on scuffed seat, I thought I would also try it
     

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