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Copen Novice

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Dana Fitzsimmons, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:30 AM.

  1. Dana Fitzsimmons

    Dana Fitzsimmons Copenworld Newbie

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    Hi I am thinking of purchasing a copen as my first car, I'm torn between the 0.66 the 1.3, my main concern being the turbo on the 0.66 seems experience to replace if necessary. I suppose I'm just trying to fing out the pros & cons between the 0.66 & the 1.3. It's very rare to see a copen on the road in northern ireland & I don't know anyone who owns one so just looking for some advice. Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Barry Copen

    Barry Copen Copenworld Regular

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    Hello there. I have a 1.3 and although I have never owned a 0.66, I have driven one or two. For what they are worth, my views are as follows:

    The 1.3s are generally more expensive to buy as they are necessarily newer and more likely to have lower mileage.

    The 0.66s are more expensive and cumbersome to maintain because of the regular oil changes required.

    There is more risk of the 0.66s costing a lot of money if the turbo goes.

    I’ve found the 0.66s underpowered in ordinary driving; not that the 1.3 is very fast!

    I did none of this research before getting my Copen 2 years ago; I wasn’t entirely sure what I was buying especially as the car salesman thought he was selling me a 0.66!

    But both models are great little cars. Try & find a low mileage & rust free example tho.

    There are plenty of much more expert contributors to this forum who will have opposite views to mine!

    Good luck with your search.
     
  3. AFR0N1

    AFR0N1 Copenworld Member

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    If buying the 659cc model make sure it has a full service history. That way you know how well it's been maintained and if it has had its oil changes frequently enough. As long as the engine has been taken care of the turbo should last. Or at least I would hope so

    Other things to consider:
    Do you want 8 thousand RPM's to play with?
    Get the 659cc.
    Do you want better aftermarket?
    The 659cc seems to have more options.
    Do you want a proper kei car experience?
    659cc is kei spec.

    I got a Copen as my first car and I chose the 659cc model for these reasons:
    1. Cheaper to buy.
    2. I wanted a true kei spec kei car.
    3. My Copen has a full service history and mechanicaly is in great condition.
    4. I think the 659cc might have been cheaper to insure since it's like half the size of the 1.3, however I haven't confirmed this.
    5. Because 8K RPM.
    6. Less risk of breaking the speed limit = more fun at legal speeds.
    7. I like the sounds turbos make. The Hissss and the tshh sounds are fun.
     
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  4. Dana Fitzsimmons

    Dana Fitzsimmons Copenworld Newbie

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    Thanks for the info. I'm probably not going to get either model here in northern ireland but I'm not going to let that put me off.
     
  5. Barry Copen

    Barry Copen Copenworld Regular

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    I have seen them for sale in NI on Autotrader from time to time.
     
  6. Dana Fitzsimmons

    Dana Fitzsimmons Copenworld Newbie

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    I've been checking auto trader for a while but I haven't seen any for sale in NI. I rang the main daihatsu dealer in NI yesterday and I was told it's been over a year since they have had one up for sale, i'll keep looking, unfortunately time is of te essence but I'm not prepared to settle for a fiat 500 or whatever - a copen is definitely what I want
     
  7. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    I guess you have to travel a bit. I had to go roughly 400km one way to get the car I wanted - and so can you :D

    If you do not / cannot travel, maybe this one is easier to acquire: Daihatsu Trevis – Wikipedia
     
  8. Dana Fitzsimmons

    Dana Fitzsimmons Copenworld Newbie

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    I've never seen that before, it looks like a cross between a copen & a mini. The problem with living in northern ireland is all of the cars for sale are in mainland UK which means a plane journey or a ferry. Might have to try the south of ireland but if there is anything for sale it could involve anything between a 2 -6 hour car journey to view it
     
  9. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    It's always been expensive to have good taste :D

    Trevis is based on the Cuore/Mira by the way, in Japan its called "Mira Gino".
     
  10. Dana Fitzsimmons

    Dana Fitzsimmons Copenworld Newbie

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    The Trevis seems to be rarer than the copen. I spoke with a guy at my local daihatsu dealership he was pretty knowledgeable in regards to copen's and I got afew tips on what to look out for when buying one second hand.
     
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