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Car Diagnostic Tool compatible with Copen

Discussion in 'Problems, Fixes, Tips...' started by Chrismadeley, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Chrismadeley

    Chrismadeley Copenworld Member

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    Hi All,

    I'd like to buy a "Car Diagnostic Tool" which would be compatible with my Copen. Can I buy any for example Foxwell or Sealey car diagnostic tool, or does it have to be a particular one? Is the connection point under the steering wheel as discussed in a recent thread and is it a "one size fits all car diagnostic tools" connection point? Does the Copen have standard fault codes or are the fault codes particular to the manufacturer Daihatsu?

    My orange engine light keeps popping on and often it is merely an "engine misfire" so we have changed the plugs every 2 years. So many newbie questions I'm afraid....

    Thank you, Chris
     
  2. jcuyckens

    jcuyckens Copenworld Member

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    BMW R850RT & R850R
    Yamaha GTS1000 1993
    Hello Chris,
    I ordered the PLX kiwi 3, bluetooth OBD2 reader for Iphone.
    Almost delivered, it's at Customs clearance.
     
  3. Number6

    Number6 Inactive User

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    There are Daihatsu specific codes, however they are mainly very specific types of codes such as ABS or immobiliser which aren't covered under the generic codes. Any scantool should be able to read the codes and, more importantly, reset them (or just disconnect the battery for 15 minutes), as well as getting things like RPMs, speed, etc.

    Beware of the cheapo Chinese elm327 type OBD-II scanners as they might not have the full functionality of a real elm327 chip
     
  4. Chrismadeley

    Chrismadeley Copenworld Member

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    Thank you for your advice!
     
  5. Andrew

    Andrew Copenworld Newbie

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    the software can be limiting factor as well, if it has a trial use that first to make sure you can even connect to the cars ecu.
    Then check that the software you get can read and clear codes.
     
  6. grunt

    grunt Copenworld Member

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    Hi There - I'd really like to know if your PLX Kiwi 3 works with your Copen when you get it (well if ours i a 659cc model :)

    MIne's an AU spec but with a DSport ECU. I have tried my Autophix ES620 (even worked with my Audi), the Kiwi 3 and several cheap bluetooth ones - and none will communicate with the Dsport ECU. I know the std ECU is supposed to be KWP Slow - but not sure on the DSport one (might be time to try and email DSport).

    I do remember see some YouTube video some years ago - unfortunately all in Japanese - showing someone with a breakout box connecting and OBD2 scanner to the Copen ECU after swapping some wiring around ???
     
  7. Chrismadeley

    Chrismadeley Copenworld Member

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    I bought a Foxwell OBDII/EOBD Code Reader NT200 online through Halfords website. It communicates with the Copen and clears the fault codes
     
  8. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    I have ECO scangauge..top item. Shows a lot and you can clear the fault codes too.
     

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  9. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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  10. jcuyckens

    jcuyckens Copenworld Member

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    Yamaha GTS1000 1993
    Hello,
    today I made a testrun with the copen 1.3 and the PLX kiwi 3 and a Iphone6S.
    I tested 0-100km/h dyno to see what the car is capable of before adjusting valve clearances, air filter change (K&N box), spark plug (NGK iridium) and oil chage.
    The fastest i could do was 11.8sec.
    The software worked well, also the data logging function worked well.
    Bluetooth connection goes automaticly, even connect to the radio and the kiwi3 the same time.
     

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  11. simonmcg

    simonmcg Copenworld Newbie

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  12. marnob

    marnob Copenworld Regular

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    I would like to know if these scanners that do work with the L880K are just readers or can you remap the ECU as well?
     
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  13. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    my ECO scangauge do it well..;)

    Kai
     
  14. Number6

    Number6 Inactive User

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    Just readers. I haven't found any way or documentation on how to remap the ECU via the OBD-II port...
     
  15. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    ECU remapping is only for professional people with professional equipment worth a few thousand.
     
  16. marnob

    marnob Copenworld Regular

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    You need the right OBD reader/writer & not expensive. To have your file remapped is where it can get expensive. You can get software & do it yourself but I would be careful with that. That's the tricky bit as to knowing what to change and how much & of course never rewrite directly to your ECU, that way if ya mess it up, you can just upload your original file and all is good.
    Another way is you can buy a file already mapped from a company in the Netherlands. They also have a huge range of cars & bikes on there list including the Copen. There's is a bit different in that you don't have to read or write any files. You just plug the hardware into the OBD port and that's it.
    After a couple of 100 km's or so it susses out your driving and adjust everything accordingly. Bonus is when you sell your car you can take it out & it will bring you car back to the standard ECU specks it had before.
    Buy a different model & just pay for another file for it and update the hardware, plug it into the OBD port on your new car and wolla it will do the same thing. Better performance/fuel etc.
    Very user friendly. Cost over $400EU though, so converting to Aust dollars is getting up there.
    There is also a place in Japan that will exchange or rewrite your ECU for the Copen. $35,000Yen.
    MPPS will do a huge variety of ECU's but not Daihatsu, it only reads & writes to your ECU with the right cable.
    Here's the catch for newbee's as I found out. Wasn't a lot of money invested $25AU. I wanted to diagnose some faults.
    I managed to get a copy of the ECU file from my Audi S3 anyway. Once hooked up to my laptop it took a few minutes to download.
    There are different types of cables for read/write & diagnostics!
    I will now have two cables when the other one arrives this week.
    Another $20 but this one will diagnose a huge variety of models included Daihatsu, will post on here if it works with the Copen as well.
     
  17. marnob

    marnob Copenworld Regular

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    That cable didn't work (Elm327) but they offered a refund so all good.
     
  18. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    I have an ELM327 Bluetooth adapter and it works OK with the copen
     
  19. marnob

    marnob Copenworld Regular

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    Is it the L880K model?
    If so what software programs did you use with it?
    Did it give you a complete data reading with any or no fault codes etc?

    Perhaps mine had a fault in it. As I said above I got a refund but I really wanted to be able to use it.
     
  20. jez77

    jez77 Copenworld Regular

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    2000 Toyota RAV4
    Salieri has a 1.3 according to his profile. All the Aussie cars are 660 turbos and Jap spec, not the same as the UK turbo cars either. (Don't know about the German ones)
    I don't think the Aussie cars are OBD2 (Scangauge site said they aren't) so those adapters probably won't work. Just OBD port it just for fault diagnostics.

    Don't think you can reprogram the ECU through the OBD port, probably need the chip removed and reflashed that's why it's an exchange system.

    Better off to go the Dsport ECU or the Unichip route like I did.
     

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