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1.3 k3ve from gtvi sirion

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Jimmy, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy Copenworld Newbie

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    Car(s):
    Daihatsu copen, Daihatsu mira, Daihatsu Move, SA310 Suzuki Swift, VX Holden Commodore
    Im in Australia and have bought a gtvi sirion I am going to put that engine in the copen. I know that it has been done before and have been trying to find some pictures or a write up from someone else that may have done it in the past. I haven't had much luck in finding much info. I have only found the guy that has his old for sale add's from when he did his and a you tube form the person who bought it. It actually has been helpful with the location for power steering pump. Other than that I have not found much at all. Any help on where to find such info would be fantastic. I'm not asking for a step by step but information makes things a lot easier. Thanks
     
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  2. jcuyckens

    jcuyckens Copenworld Member

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    Yamaha GTS1000 1993
    Dear, it is not only the mechanical parts, bolted on the motor base, but also wire boom and ECU. Possibly if you transplant the wire boom and sensors, it will work due to the fact that our ECU is self adjusting. Measure the hight of the cilinder head, for the 1.5l this was 2.5cm higher and clashing with the engine compartment hood requiring to lower the subframe. Regards Joost.
     
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  3. copenforbusiness

    copenforbusiness Copenworld Member

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    Hi @Jimmy,
    Can I ask, what engine does your Copen have? is it the .66 turbo one? By the sounds of it, you are trying to replace this with a whole new 1.3 version. This is what they did in the UK with Copens, they started selling them with the original 0.66 turbo and after 2006 they only sold them with the 1.3 non-turbo version.
    If you still want to do this, it can be done but this is very complicated as mentioned in this post.
    The guy I bought the replacement 1.3 engine from, a while back, wanted to do that. He was very good with mechanics but this proved to be a mammouth of a task. He ended up giving up and selling the parts he had purchased for the replacement.
    Saying that, please let us know what you'll end up doing. This would increase our knowledge of Copens a lot...
    Good luck!
     
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  4. Jimmy

    Jimmy Copenworld Newbie

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    yeh I have the 660cc and well the engine is out of the sirion donor car I will put new rings and gaskets through it before it goes in the copen but It will be done. Yes it will be a challenge but it's not as if it hasn't been done before I think the fitment will be the easy part with the wiring the challenge. With that said I have the whole wiring from the sirion with immobilser, ecu and key etc. Peaople have been putting the k3 engines in L700's here for years so I cant imagine it will much harder than that. Will let everyone know of the progress as it goes.
     
  5. copenforbusiness

    copenforbusiness Copenworld Member

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    Pictures, take loads of pictures!!.... please.... :angel:
     
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  6. ronalddoes

    ronalddoes Copenworld Member

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    2004 Copen 659 cc, 2009 Sirion 2 1000cc, 2010 Subaru Justy 1000cc
    Also: once it's finished please rent it out to visiting CopenWorld-members. Sounds like a ton of fun to drive!
     
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  7. Jimmy

    Jimmy Copenworld Newbie

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    I will do so far I have only taken out the sirion engine and going through and labeling all the wiring in the sirion b4 it comes out.
     
  8. Jimmy

    Jimmy Copenworld Newbie

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    I thought I had better update on this project. The copen got hit by another car a couple of months ago and so the project has stopped. It will be fixed under insurance and we are still waiting on parts to arrive from Japan. After this happeneing we have decided to leave the copen as is with the jbdet and then if something happens to the jbdet we will then look at the conversion, but until then the project is on hold.
     

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