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Over sized oil filter stuck.

Discussion in 'Problems, Fixes, Tips...' started by Andrew, Aug 20, 2016.

  1. Andrew

    Andrew Copenworld Newbie

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    I finally got around to changing the oil filter on the copen and what a drama so I thought I should share my story here in case it can save some one else some trouble.
    Whom ever serviced the car previously had installed a filter twice the length of the normal one so it could not fit out through the gap in the engine mount.
    To get it out I had to remove the lower inter-cooler hard pipe and soft hose. The pipe is held with 2 12mm bolts and has an oring. Once these are off the filter could be maneuvered between the exhaust and inter-cooler then past the bumper and cross member.
    The oring is a pain to keep in place while refitting the pipe. If it is stuck to the pipe as mine was don't pull it off like I did!
     
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  2. bluehawaii90

    bluehawaii90 Copenworld Member

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    any luck with this? i'm doing mine at the weekend.
     
  3. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    There are two types of filters. One is quite slim (half the height), you can wedge this one through the engine mount without taking apart anything.

    The other one is too big to fit through, that will be a pain.
    Depending on what filter is installed at the moment, this could take from minutes to hours :D I would definitely install the slim version when replacing the filter.

    See the following picture for guidance
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  4. miller

    miller Copenworld Newbie

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    I have just done my oil and oil filter. I can add though unless you have small hands the whole fitting through the engine mount is just a no no. I tried and tried and just couldn't get hand rotated enough through the engine mount to safely thread the new filter back on. Its bumper off am afraid for me from now on....
     
  5. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    What about oil filter wrenches? They should let you tighten it through the engine mount. Also: Hand tight is enough, no need for 200nm of torque :D
     
  6. miller

    miller Copenworld Newbie

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    I used the correct oil filter wrench/flute, I just struggled so much with the hand up through the engine mount I went with bumper off. I didn't have the confidence of getting the new filter bedded in correctly. You can access the wrench cups from the front if just the grill removed but for me it was the simple act of getting the filter on the threads correctly with confidence.....

    just big hands :-(
     
  7. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    Oh noo..
    Get someone with smaller hands (your children?) next time :D
     
  8. bluehawaii90

    bluehawaii90 Copenworld Member

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    I went to the shop here yesterday and the only ones they have (had to order it in) what i think is the bigger one. There was a choice of 3 but they were all 65mm. i was under there last night trying to find my oil leak but i'm dammed if i can find mine! are they in a different place for the 0.6?
     
  9. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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    The 65mm is the "wrong" one, I have found one that is 50mm from a german company called Herth+Buss Jakoparts, the number is J1316008.
    Maybe you can order it online...
     
  10. bluehawaii90

    bluehawaii90 Copenworld Member

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    Thanks, this one is bosch. If i ever get it back from the garage of doom i will have a look!
     
  11. welz

    welz Copenworld Regular

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    20 Minutes....complet with filter 2,50 Euro..J1316008 Jakoparts herth+Buss.:) daparto or ebay`? easy to get.. DSC00343.JPG
     
  12. miller

    miller Copenworld Newbie

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    Do they sell smaller hands also? :D:D
     
  13. Salieri

    Salieri Copenworld Veteran

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  14. Bemused

    Bemused Copenworld Regular

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    Well done that man
     
  15. bluehawaii90

    bluehawaii90 Copenworld Member

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    Yup, it was the wrong size! No way that sucker is going in that space! Easy enough to find though, pretty much to the right of the dipstick and up towards the engine (if you are under the car).
     

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