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EBC front discs and Green Stuff pads for Buzz

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by PhillandLin, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. PhillandLin

    PhillandLin Copenworld Member

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    Good afternoon to you all on Copenworld. Hope all is good?

    Following Buzz's 7 year service at the end of last week, one of the points that he got picked up on was the front brake discs. They were 'pitted' and looked corroded. :(

    Also, the outside rims of the discs didn't look too good, and were spoiling the effect of the alloy spokes.

    So, I've decided to upgrade them to EBC premium discs with Green Stuff pads.

    I've attached a couple of 'before' photos, and will post some 'after' the transplants later in the week.

    Cheers!

    PhillandLin.
     

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  2. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    I'm considering greenstuff for when I do my front pads. I'm not sure if there are any other uprated pads for the copen. Ferodo don't do the DS2500 in Copen size their site suggests :(
    I might not pay the extra for EBC discs though. For a small low powered car I don't think there will be a difference compared to what pads might do.
     
  3. dsb

    dsb Copenworld Regular

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    had my mot today - and one of the front brake discs was the only advisory - it's corroded.
    they quoted £180 to replace all four - sound good?
     
  4. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    replace all 4 discs!! :eek: I think you need another garage lol
     
  5. Adam K

    Adam K Copenworld Guru

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    I ask them to clarify that as the Copen only has front disks. On the rear are drum's.

    EBC brake discs are £76.70.
    http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/car/...e=DAIHATSU&model=Copen&year=0.7+Turbo+(2003-)

    EBC Greenstuff pads are £34.29
    http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/car/...e=DAIHATSU&model=Copen&year=0.7+Turbo+(2003-)

    So my guess would be they are charging you £180 for front discs & pads plus labour.

    Philandlin, let us know how you get on with the Greenstuff pads. I understand they reduce the amount of brake dust given off, so keep your alloys cleaner.
     
  6. Lotuseater

    Lotuseater Copenworld Regular

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    Hi,

    I fitted Green Stuff pads to mine last year, Euro Car Parts, think they were around £32!?

    Adam - my experience so far is that they do produce less dust, however, not for the first few miles - think there's a coating that may need to wear off.

    Will say that I found the braking to be better - difficult to describe but better that OEM pads.

    Kind regards.
     
  7. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    We want a 300 mm upgrade! :D
     
  8. analog dog

    analog dog Copenworld Newbie

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    Those wheels are immense!:eek: Where did you get them please?
     
  9. dsb

    dsb Copenworld Regular

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    ah well, they are quite a friendly garage.
    essentially they said that while the disc is corroded, it's not going to affect the operation at the moment, but come the time, that's what it would be.
     
  10. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    I'd not change for just some corrosion. All discs get rusty in the vents and hat. If the braking surface is severely rusted when car is regularly used then you have a pad to disc functioning problem or the pad is irregular/damaged surface. If the disc is no less than 15 mm thick its probably ok if surface is clean and its got no cracks.
     
  11. PhillandLin

    PhillandLin Copenworld Member

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    Right. The day that Buzz gets his new EBC discs and Green Stuff pads has arrived. He's under the knife (screwdriver and spanner :D) as we speak.

    The service that I received when purchasing the brakes from EBC was truly first class. Very knowlegable sales staff, all processed smoothly, and next day delivery free of charge!

    The products looked great, and felt to be very well made, and they're manufactured in Britain!!! As the owner of a small business, I always try to support our home producers whenever possible.

    He's due out of theatre :D later this afternoon, so I'll report back either this evening or sometime tomorrow.

    Cheers!

    PhillandLin
     
  12. PhillandLin

    PhillandLin Copenworld Member

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    Good evening to all you Copen fans. Hope you've had a great day?

    Just driven Buzz back from Richard my trusty mechanic, who has fitted his new set of EBC Premium Brake discs and Green Stuff pads.

    First impressions are just as expected. The shiny new discs look great, and are a huge improvement over the old, corroded ones which were spoiling the look of the alloys.

    As for the pads, I really love the bright green look, but I know that everyone won't feel the same. I'd love to know what we all think? :rolleyes:

    Regarding their performance, I've only driven about 6 miles with them fitted, so I can't comment yet. However, I have noticed that the special red coating on the pads does create a lot of dust during the first few miles. EBC told me that this was the case, and that it enables the pad to bed properly with the disc. One of the main reasons that I upgraded to this disc/pad combination was to reduce the amount of dust, so we'll just have to wait and see.

    I've attached a photo. It would be great to hear what other members think.

    Speak again soon.

    Cheers!

    PhillandLin and Buzz. IMG_0575.jpg
     
  13. Adam K

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    Looking good. This might very well be my next upgrade.
     
  14. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    As I said earlier I'll most likely go for some greenstuff, somewhat because there doesn't seem any other upgraded pad for the Copen we can easily get hold of.

    I've had them before of another car and personally I don't like the shade of green. Its across between vomit green and Ikea nobody buys that green. More central trains than GWR. Now if they were racing green that would be nice but alas I think too dark to stand out. Suit ones like Scooty's car very well though.

    I could get some red caliper paint and make them look like redstuff :). If you have a yellow copen make them look like yellowstuff and you have a track car look.
     
  15. PhillandLin

    PhillandLin Copenworld Member

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    Just over a week from the upgrading of Buzz's brakes and I thought I'd give you a brief update.
    About 100 miles of normal suburban driving have proved to be fairly uneventful :) with the brakes performing at least as well as the previous OEM set. No sticking or squealing to report.
    However, I have noticed a considerable increase in the amount of brake dust deposited on the alloys! :(
    I was told by EBC that this would be the case for the first 250 miles or so, and then the deposits would dramatically decrease. Well, we'll soon find out whether that's the case or not.
    On the looks side of things, I still think they look great, in fact I've had two local admiring Copen fans who have stopped to discuss them with me!
    More updates to follow in due course.
    Cheers!
    PhillandLin and Buzz.
     
  16. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    yes be increased to hear if the dust does decrease.
     
  17. Number6

    Number6 Copenworld Veteran

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    It takes about 100 miles or so to "bed in" brake pads - at least the ADL ones - where they throw off a LOT of brake dust. I'd imagine that this is also the case with the Greenstuff ones.
     

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