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smoking engine

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by savepower, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. savepower

    savepower Copenworld Newbie

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    C5
    Hi all, i've had a Copen for a while now but is now blowing whitish greyish smoke which smells a bit, engine manegment light came on intermittently at first then permenantly, has not lit lately. car has not been used this winter and suffered flat battery. now fully charged. not losing water but oil level seems lower. any thoughts as to fault(s) much appreciated
     
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  2. savepower

    savepower Copenworld Newbie

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    Update

    Took it to a local garage to see if he could shed some light on it but with all the running about the only smoke was bluish smoke when revving the engine after a fer minutes of idling, he noticed a breather pipe was disconnected and a stopper put in the pipe, so he reconnected it, he reccomended putting Wynnes injector cleaner in the fuel.
    we did that and put a oil smoke preventer in the oil,
    car kept retarding on hard acceleration, so i disconnected breather pipe and accelerates much smoother now
    next: sailed thru MOT.
    still occasionaly puts out some blue smoke after idling at traffic lights.
    Engine manegement light is still on though, so there must be an issue somewere.
    If anybody has any ideas? post me a reply.
     
  3. dsb

    dsb Copenworld Regular

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    blue smoke usually indicates turbo problems.
     
  4. savepower

    savepower Copenworld Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply dsb, thought there was nobody out there. -Took it out for a spin at weekend, no smoke but engine management light is still on!
     
  5. stickypinkyfinger

    stickypinkyfinger Copenworld Regular

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    Yes blue smoke equals turbo problem. I just had to buy a brand new turbo which cut a hole in my pocket for such a small thing. I did what you are doing and kept running my car, Thing is all your internal are going to be full of oil so to save a job i would park it up for a while untill you get a new turbo or else everything will be caked in oil from the turbo
     
  6. jez77

    jez77 Copenworld Regular

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    2000 Toyota RAV4
    First thing to do is get someone to read the error codes from the Ecu to narrow down the problem. There are many reasons for an engine to smoke.
    Could be turbo problem, rings, valve seals, over filled with oil.
    Blocking the oil breather could also cause the problem as it can over pressurise the crankcase. Why when it is connected the engine retards is weird. Maybe it's feeding too muck oil into the intake causing a bad air fuel mix.
    Could also be a over fueling problem, leaking injector

    Find a good mechanic with proper diagnostic equipment before you go throwing money away
     
  7. mac1962

    mac1962 Copenworld Newbie

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    It might be worth plugging one of these cheap ODB2 dongles into the diagnostic socket to see why the ECU thinks it has a fault. I've used one successfully to diagnose worn out lambda sensors. Also confirmed that there was not turbo boost when its bearing failed. ( Used freebie Torque software on an Android phone. )
     
  8. mac1962

    mac1962 Copenworld Newbie

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    I tried to get an exchange/refurbed turbo, but could only get a brand new replacement. After closing the deal and delivering the turbo, the vendor stated that I have to return the old turbo. Changing the Terms & Conditions AFTER the sale is illegal. I'm also left with the feeling that I may have paid the full brand-new price for an refurbed turbo. Why would they want my scrap turbo back?

    I won't be using or recommending that particular vendor ever again.
     
  9. stickypinkyfinger

    stickypinkyfinger Copenworld Regular

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    The company wanted to give me 20 pound for my turbo so i told them to stick it. The turbo even tho not working is worth more than that. What they do is stack a few turbos up and send them off on the cheap or build them there self, then sell them as refurb turbos. Just keep yours because you may find someone who can rebuild it for a good price.
     
  10. drewbot

    drewbot Copenworld Newbie

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    OP, did you get this sorted? I have just got a Copen for a good price because it is down on power and smokes. I also suspect turbo trouble but would be interested to hear what yours ended up being.
     
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