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Discussion in 'Dealers and Suppliers' started by misslaurentia, May 12, 2013.

  1. misslaurentia

    misslaurentia Copenworld Newbie

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    Hello guys, I am new to this forum and the copenworld ;) I have been looking at copens for quite a while now and decided to buy one. Still saving up a little bit but wanted to get general information as prices seem to be completely random!
    I am looking for a silver copen, red heated leather seats and mileage preferably not over 43000 miles. As I started looking they were on the market for around 3000 but now they seem to go up varying almost a grant or more! Just wanted to get information on how much I should be prepared to pay and maybe if waiting would be a smart thing to do as its obviously convertible season now! Any thoughts and comments on how much you have paid or also people that are willing to sell for a reasonable price are more than welcome! Thanks a lot:)
     
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  2. Adam K

    Adam K Copenworld Guru

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  3. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Do you have a preference for the 0.7 turbo or 1.3 non-turbo. I think that should be your first consideration. The turbo version requires more oil (and filter) changes and are more critical.
    What part of the country are you as you may need to be prepared to travel to get the one you want. With only 2000 ish in the country you won't have a huge choice. Luckily, besides colour, the only really model choice you have to make is which engine to go for and you only have 2 to pick from.
     
  4. DaG

    DaG Copenworld Guru

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    Hi misslaurentia. It's a buyers market so if you feel a price is too high make them an offer. They can only say no, best of luck with your search.
     
  5. misslaurentia

    misslaurentia Copenworld Newbie

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    Thanks for replying, I was looking at the 0.7 as the 1.3 ones are rather expensive. Which engine would you recommend? Also I heard that the exhaust system seems to be a problem is that true? (Rustwise) was also considering a red one but they dont seem to have the red interior which I have fallen in love with. I want to get one with a low mileage as I had a smart car before and troubles started when the mileage got more. Would you say the same thing about the copen or would you say it is rather robust even with a high mileage? Thanks
     
  6. Adam K

    Adam K Copenworld Guru

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    No you didn't ask THAT question, we'll ignore that one. :D

    If your looking at a 659 engined car the most important thing is the service history. It MUST have had the regular oil changes. If the service history is poor walk away. Otherwise expect to have to buy a new turbo at @ £850+ fitted.
    Next thing to look for is rust around the rear arches.
    Yes the exhaust pipes don't seem to last long.
    Water in the boot under the tool kit (failed middle brake light).

    If you haven't read it already here's the buyers guide:
    http://www.copenworld.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=1078
     
  7. Binz

    Binz Copenworld Regular

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    if you are driving a lot of miles you may find that anything you save by buying 0.7 instead of 1.3 gets spent on the extra servicing. If only doing low mileage then an older cheaper 0.7 may be just right for you.

    as for price, I bought a 5 yr old 1.3 for about £5K a year ago. High mileage for a Copen (>70K) but flew through MOT last month with no work required.
     
  8. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    From what I've read, as I have a 1.3, you have can problems with the turbo if not serviced regularly and is an expensive replacement. So if you are unlucky to get a turbo and it go, you can essentially add a £1000 onto the price you are looking to pay.

    For that reason, like Binz said, you can get a higher mileage 1.3 and probably have more reassurance that its going to be ok. Go an talk to a few Yaris owners.

    I would assume the rear arch and exhaust problems are common to both. But does the exhaust rust any quicker than other cars? if so why?
     
  9. dwayner

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    I wouldnt worry about getting one over 43,ooo miles - the engines on these cars is extremely robust - gone over 220,000 kms, and still going strong - Daihatsu servicing cant find anything wrong with it even now, so dont be put off -
    i havent replaced the turbo either - just needs a lot of servicing..
     
  10. misslaurentia

    misslaurentia Copenworld Newbie

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    I wouldnt mind servicing but how much am I looking at for the 6 months service? Its only the oil change and eventually filter right? How much is that going to cost?
     
  11. Adam K

    Adam K Copenworld Guru

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    I recently paid just shy of £100 for an oil & filter change.
    That's was with an engine flush & genuine Daihatsu filter (expensive).
     
  12. trustafox

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    For a 1.3, I'm looking at £25 oil, £6/7 the filter. But I only need that once a year and intend to do them myself.

    As my recent post showed I have a new air filter now. I've got iridium spark plugs in (£25) they should last me a few years. I did a brake bled (£2). I serviced my front brakes recently and think they will last a few years also with mileage I do. I might change the coolant but don't think there is a rush for that (£15 ish?). If I get any major engine issues I might take it to the local Toyota garage.

    How much was your filter Adam?

    Note: I did a brake bled on my mother's car for £2 which being 8 years old and possibly never been done. I did a good few brake pumps on each corner. It used nearly 200 mL. So with the remaining 50 mL I just did a couple of pumps on each corner of the Copen to check for/expel any air. So it was more like 40p worth!
     
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  13. Adam K

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    Including vat, @£20
     
  14. dwayner

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    I dont know how much serviceing costs in the UK- Set price servicing in australia means you always pay the set price for servicing - for Daihatsu copen, thats $165.00 (about 90 pounds?)
    I have an oil change only for about 44 dollars - so its not expensive.
    but with the copen serviceing the turbo model is essential -
    but servicing is a small prive to pay as you avoid all the major expensive problems.
     
  15. misslaurentia

    misslaurentia Copenworld Newbie

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    Okay im confused with all these prices lol...so if you do it at a daihatsu dealer or so its a 100 but you could get it cheaper if you go to any garage?:think:
     
  16. DaG

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    Smaller independent garages will always be cheaper than a main dealer. There can be a massive difference in service costs so shop around.
    Make sure you go somewhere reputable though. It's been known for some back street cowboys to put cheap oil in a car when it requires something more expensive like fully synthetic.
     
  17. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Deffo DaG. Hence I like to do it so I know what oil is going in. Also its quicker because I don't have to book it in to a garage and just do it after work.
     
  18. dwayner

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    no more or no less than any other car - i service 3 cars, and the copen is always the cheapest - i dont service it on a "yearly or 6 monthly " basis = but on kilometers. so the big ones are 50,000, 100,000 etc. they are around 450 dollars thru toyota - my camry is just a touch more than that. My Holden is in between, and thats a medium size car - they arent big expenses - if you dont service the copen - then its big money when something goes wrong.
    I dont know about the UK, but in Australia, they are only saying they can get parts supply thru their network until 2015 - im guessing the prices will be more for parts after that
     
  19. thewiltshirehardys

    thewiltshirehardys Copenworld Member

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    Hi. I just had my wifes 600 Copen serviced. Full service including brakes oil change, filter, air filter . Repair damage done putting wrong oil filter on by previous owner and repair air box damage . General check all over (first service for me so good check over.) £199.
    Was that good? Not sure but I feel comfortable.
     
  20. nertman

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    One of NERTS approved dealers serviced Dinky last month and the bill was £85 inclusive

    Oil filters etc plus brakes were cleaned and checked

    They also offer for comparrisson mgtf servicing at £225,other dealers are asking £375

    these guys give us a really good deal

    Deals of Kelvendon,ask for Steve,Quote NERT

    If it helps anyone local
     
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