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Boot leak (Again.....Still)

Discussion in 'Problems, Fixes, Tips...' started by thewiltshirehardys, Nov 4, 2013.

  1. thewiltshirehardys

    thewiltshirehardys Copenworld Member

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    mr.. 1959 morris minor
    We have an ongoing issue with water in the boot and i finally got round to re-sealing the brake light as well described on the forum BUT.......its still leaking from somewhere.
    Can anyone point me in the right direction as regards finding the leak?:think:

    Rob
     
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  2. Adam K

    Adam K Copenworld Guru

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    I would suggest lining the boot with some kitchen towel. Under all the boot edges & under the brake light. Give the car a good soaking with a hose or wait for it to rain. Then see where the damp spots on the kitchen towel are.
     
  3. dunf

    dunf Copenworld Regular

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    I fixed the boot light seal at the weekend, but also treated all the other edge seals with silicone spray to keep them supple. If the seals go brittle they wont work. At £3 a tin its worth a shot.
     
  4. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    I used car plan silicone lubricant and a nice good massage.
     
  5. RHD

    RHD Copenworld Member

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    Saab 9-3
    leak

    I've noticed a design fault with this cool car. After it's rained or even when the car is wet, when the boot is opened water runs down the side and goes directly into the boot!
    Water also collects in the wells at the rear which in turn runs down near the lights.
    Any tips on how to re direct the water?
     
  6. trustafox

    trustafox Copenworld Guru

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    Fix a big umbrella to it :D But i know what you mean when you life the boot. Thats why when its wet I only lift it so far and any water that runs off goes on to the rear window.
     
  7. DaG

    DaG Copenworld Guru

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    We've heard about your special massages.:eek:
     
  8. copenabana

    copenabana Copenworld Newbie

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    I'm now convinced that your leak is more condensation from the boot lid itself, having acquired my sons Copen, and dealt with the BL leak successfully, then checking a few days later (I am not using the car daily, and it lives outside) that again there was water in the middle well area, the boot lid was dripping, I thoroughly dried out the area, then cut in a large piece of thick card, I have checked again this morning, the card is wet and the boot lid dripping, especially at the rear edge, my feeling is (and confirmed by my local dealer who supplied the car originally) that because of the build nature, ie, very lightweight, there is no insulation available that would normally help prevent this, they admitted having to recourse to drilling a fine hole in the central well area to help relieve water build up, my next step is to try the reusable dehumidifier products recommended by a forum member. I would appreciate any other feedback on what is a difficult solution to remedy.
    It maybe that using the car daily may alleviate this occurring?.
    Over to anyone with constructive thoughts.
     
  9. dunf

    dunf Copenworld Regular

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    Ive been using two rechargeable dehumidifiers in the car (one in the boot, one in the cabin) for about ten days now. There is a noticible difference to the cabin windows. At this time of year they still steam up, but at least we are not getting solid ice to scrape on the inside like we did a couple weeks ago. The boot lid is definately not leaking now, but is still suffering from condensation. The boot humidifier is prob due a recharge soon so it has definately taken in some moisture from the boot. The cabin one is less noticeable.

    The units we are using plug in to the 240v mains to recharge in 24 hours. No need to oven bake or use a radiator to dry them out.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rechargeabl...5384009&sr=8-8&keywords=portable+dehumidifier
     
  10. JulesAtCumbria

    JulesAtCumbria Copenworld Regular

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    Thanks for the link, Dunf - got a pair on their way to me. Hopefully will keep the boot space a tad drier and even the little Honda will benefit and maybe we'll not need to scrape the condensation or ice off the inside of the windscreen!
     
  11. copenabana

    copenabana Copenworld Newbie

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    Leaking boot

    Well, again to reiterate,

    The boot lid is aluminium, a super conductor of heat and cold, the lid acts almost the same as a fridge, especially when heat is generated from the exhaust system, and, same as early aluminium windows, they also created the same issue, warm moist air hitting a cold surface, result lots of condensation.

    The problem is difficult to cure, especially when using regulary, the Copen as stated earlier is not used daily but still generates a lot (dripping) condensation, I have in place a dehumidifier pack that may help.

    My supplying Daihatsu dealer admits to drilling a fine hole in the lowest boot area, helping to rid any build up of water.
     
  12. Runners

    Runners Copenworld Member

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    I had condensation on the boot lid, so I tried one of those moisture absorber bags. Here's a handy amazon link for it Moisture Absorber

    I simply leave it on a radiator for a few hours to recharge once a month at the most and place it on that tiny little luggage ledge above the air compressor in the boot. I've not had any condensation since.
     
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  13. suchin

    suchin Copenworld Newbie

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    continued leak

    Our car had an inch or two of water in the rear well in fact the jack was under water. Didn't nitice whe we bought it as it was all covered with the carpet.
    Did all the usual boot light fix but to no avail water is still getting in. I am sure it is a boot seal problem. I have tried every possible adjustment on the boot closing mechanism but still get water in. Tracing the exact point of entry is difficult as the point it drips in is not the point of entry, water runs along until it finds a point to drip from.
    I can not find a way to get the boot lid to pull down tighter on the seal none of the adjustments allow this, the catch and lock are not adjustable. I suspect the two pices of rubber at each end of the rear screen gutter, as they seem very hard, may be at fault not sure if these are available or indeed the whole seal!
    To avoid damage I have removed the central carpet treated any small rust spots and waxoiled the boot floor also removed the grommets from the boot floor so water drain out.
    If anyone has experience of boot adjustment or seal availabilty please let me know.
    Other than that it is a great little car.
     
  14. MrCopen

    MrCopen Copenworld Member

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    I once saw wheeler dealers fixing the leaking car door...I think it was for Jaguar?
    He have put a smoke machine inside and detected where the leak was coming from. Should give that ago.:think:
     
  15. alz2605

    alz2605 Copenworld Regular

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    Do you mean where the jack is? Theres already a little cavity the size of a mini aerosol cap which I've wondered what it was for? It's sealed though as I'm always getting a puddle of water there. I don't think I have a leak it just seems to be from opening the boot when wet & condensation.

    I bought a set of those. Seems to work well in the cabin but I don't think it's up to the job in the boot. Think I might look at lining the boot lid with some sort of insulating fabric.
     
  16. Rex

    Rex Copenworld Pioneer

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    Be careful when lining the lid. The clearance is very small especially around the electrical connectors when the top is down.

    Rex.
     
  17. princess

    princess Copenworld Regular

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    just got our second copen 04 reg. we also have a brand new vw bettle!!!!
    ONLY DRIVE THE CAR IN THE SUMMER!!! PROBLEM SOLVED:D. Since our car was fixed it's been out ....................... twice due to the bad weather..:) It's currently tucked away in the garage all covered up and started once a week. Please GOOD WEATHER get here soon!!!!:D
     
  18. alz2605

    alz2605 Copenworld Regular

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  19. dsb

    dsb Copenworld Regular

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    today I took a hairdryer to my boot to get it pretty dry - after the recent flooding incident.
    I used clear silicone sealant around the boot light to hopefully solve the issue - as I hadn't opened the boot fully for a couple of weeks due to rain I haven't a clue how long it had been going on.
     
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